I am looking at an ad posting of a 1969 Arrow (SN 28R-35194), and want to know from the POS membership if the rear bench seat can be temporarily removed to make it a flying pick-up truck when we want to carry dogs 'n stuff on a long cross country. Thanks.
There is no floorboard underneath the bench seat. Your dogs will be sitting and walking directly on the control cables to the rudder, elevators, and ailerons.
JimC
Don't believe so JimC. Check Piper parts catalog 2A6 fig 27 item 100 looks like a floor board to me. All he would need then is a weight and balance with the seat removed and a maybe a log entry showing that he had removed the seat. Right?
Ron
Hope I'm wrong. My 66 PA28 did not have a floorboard under the bench seat. I'll look at the parts catalog to confirm whether there was a change between 66 and 69 and that a floorboard was added (that also would imply that the method of mounting the bench seat was changed as well).
OK, I looked.
His serial # is 28R-35194. Figure 2C11 shows the seat configuration for 28R-35001 to 28R-35830 inclusive. His plane is within that range. This is also the Figure that includes my plane (which did not come with a floorboard). I do not see a floorboard called out on this Figure, and we both use the same rear seat bottom frame asssembly, Part # 65066-00, Code E. This should imply that neither of us has a floorboard, because there is no provision for attaching that particular frame assembly to a floorboard.
My '69 Arrow has no floorboard under the rear seat. There is no provision for one either. It appears to be possible (according to other posts on the site) to modify the plane to use the individual rear seats by adding a floorboard but that requires field approval.
>(according to other posts on the site) to modify the plane to use the individual rear seats by adding a floorboard but that requires field approval.<
it is indeed technically possible to do this. One should keep in mind that there are several different types of individual rear seats and mounts -- I like the ones with headrest and fold down back, that snap on and off the floorboard with a quarter turn of a screwdriver at the springlocks in back of the rear legs of the seats. The new floorboard will need to be roughly an inch longer front to rear than the floorboard from the donor plane that the seats come from. With the rear seats out, the plane has a huge baggage area (perfect for holding a SuperCub rudder, for example).
JimC
