http://forums.piperowner.org/index EN Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:07:57 -0600 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:07:57 -0600 Piper Owner Society Forums Phorum 5.1.25 60 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143576/143576#msg-143576 flyguydon General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143576/143576#msg-143576 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:07:57 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143378/143575#msg-143575 Jim Wells General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143378/143575#msg-143575 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:45:10 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143574#msg-143574 Dave Matlock
Well let's see, since dirty rags, cracker wrappers, cats, and water balloons are thrown out the storm window and lint, dust, and cookie crumbs are stored between the seat back and bottom cushions the only thing I have to put in that particular map pocket are a few quick start avionics instruction sheets, some check lists, and a Ziploc bag with pink strainers but thanks for asking.

let's look at this:

"So, if you drain and replace 8 ounces of fuel, YOU’VE SAVED 16 CENTS! YAY!".

You weren't talking about what made sense, you were talking about what made cents! does that technique EVER work out for you? You know the one I mean, trying to divert attention away from one stupid thing by saying another? What an insecure childhood you must've had.

Oh, and for ANOTHER definitive answer, the PA28-235 POH simply states "drain fuel tank sumps".

(Everyone all together now) "The village called and they want their idiot back". Now run along.]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143574#msg-143574 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:01:28 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143573#msg-143573 PilotPete
The POH is a CYA document for the a/c manufacturer. He doesn't want to get sued by the idiot who has an accident caused by contaminated fuel, but who put the contaminated sumped fuel back into his own tank. Getting rid of it is all the manuf can suggest. It's just another example of the POH being targetted at the lowest common denominator. I believe in Darwinism - if you're stupid enough to put crappy fuel in your tank, then you don't deserve to pass on your genes.

As a pilot, you make hundreds of assessments before, during and after every flight that potentially affect your safety. Checking the fuel for contamination and reusing it if it's OK is just one of those judgement calls. If you think the fuel that you just sumped isn't fit to go back into your tank, then shouldn't you question the fuel that's still IN the tank? Cause that's where the crap you just threw away came from!]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143573#msg-143573 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:57:29 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143572#msg-143572 oil man General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143572#msg-143572 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:52:49 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/5/143538/143571#msg-143571 JimC JimC]]> Modifications http://forums.piperowner.org/read/5/143538/143571#msg-143571 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:35:26 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143532/143570#msg-143570 Leigh
Having said that, I'm not suggesting that the regulators will not eventually ban all lead in our fuel so like all others here I do expect that alternates are being researched and hopefully they won't be too expensive or harmful to our engines.]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143532/143570#msg-143570 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:04:22 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143569#msg-143569 Rick T. General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143569#msg-143569 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:47:39 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143275/143568#msg-143568 ed dartford
Glen J...You note that improper installation is often the cause of tube failure. How does the tube being new improve workmanship?
And, the split wheel is the most dangerous aspect of tube/tire replacement. Care must be taken not to pinch the tube between the wheel halves.

Oh, and land on grass and your tires will last forever (almost).]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143275/143568#msg-143568 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:14:46 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/5/143538/143567#msg-143567 Jim Wells Modifications http://forums.piperowner.org/read/5/143538/143567#msg-143567 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:50:12 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/5/68494/143566#msg-143566 Dan Blumel -------------------------------------------------------
> Reflector design has a HUGE affect on light
> output. We have tested some of the higher wattage
> systems and found no increase in light output
> (some were less) vs our 35w systems mainly because
> the reflectors were not optimized for HID lamps.
>
> We also sell the PowerPULSE light controller that
> allows wing tip lights to be flashed (together) or
> pulsed (side to side).

Aviation Consumer Compared our 50 watt to 35 watt versions from Lopresti and the others a couple of years ago. Aviation Consumers called the difference between our 50 watt and all the others as "Stupefyingly" bright. Our 50 watt produces ~65% more light than any Lopresti 35 watt HID. Yes, reflector design and coating quality can have a hoge impact on output performance. We use premium reflectors.

The powerpulse from Lopresti (same as MaxPulse) is NOT suitable for wig wag of HID because the 5 second warmup they offer is way too short. All HID requires 20-30 seconds of warmup before pulsing, so the plasma can reach steady state before pulsing. There are No exceptions to this fact. Only the 1 Hz or 60 PPM each channel (120 ppm both channels) is ok for HID. Do NOT use their other Powerpulse speeds. If these industry accepted facts are not followed bulb life will be cut by 1/2 or more. Early ballast failure is also likely.

XeVision has a US patent on this warmup Pulsing of HID technology. Patent Awarded Nov. 2009]]> Modifications http://forums.piperowner.org/read/5/68494/143566#msg-143566 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:28:32 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143275/143565#msg-143565 Dave Matlock General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143275/143565#msg-143565 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:04:39 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/3/143410/143564#msg-143564 N3906X
Thank you for your interest, I've sent the information to your personal e-mail.]]> For Sale / Wanted http://forums.piperowner.org/read/3/143410/143564#msg-143564 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:03:17 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143563/143563#msg-143563 Ben R
Ben R.]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143563/143563#msg-143563 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:24:31 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/35/141236/143562#msg-143562 manoffewwords [/b]

Suggest you pick up a copy of "Elements of Style" By Strunk and White

Strunk recommended that writers omit needless words.

http://www.crockford.com/wrrrld/style.html

mofw]]> Political & News Related Posts http://forums.piperowner.org/read/35/141236/143562#msg-143562 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:19:20 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143378/143561#msg-143561 John Barton
I have and fly to our offices weekly, throughout the Northeast, Texas, Arkansas, among a few. The big difference now is I am doing it on my own without a corp pilot. The rating has been put to good use and certainly changed my business travel / life....One of the best things I've accomplished thus far.

Learned yesterday my insurance has dropped almost in half from previous premiums. it just keeps getting better..

John B.]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143378/143561#msg-143561 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:55:36 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143560#msg-143560 Ed Dartford Back in the day we just tossed it away. But that's bad for the grass, or asphalt. And it contaminates groundwater that flows off the tiedown area, and which is routinely tested by the EPA. They could shut us down if they found a "problem".

Unless I find water I return it to the tank. It's not about the cost of gas.]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143560#msg-143560 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:15:40 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143559#msg-143559 Rick T. General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143559#msg-143559 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:02:16 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143378/143558#msg-143558 ed dartford General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143378/143558#msg-143558 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:55:11 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143557#msg-143557 Gimble -------------------------------------------------------
> Glass would probably make
> inspection easier, but the plastic bucket is
> harder to break.

I went with glass because I couldn't find an appropriate gas can with a huge mouth, and I don't know my plastics enough to know what might break down under exposure to gasoline and introduce contaminants.

However, on the asphalt, my one use of it made me worry about the concrete breaking the glass either through impact or the roughness of the ground if it were 'scooted' at all.

I think I'll look into some kind of rubber backing I can put on the bottom of the pitcher (remarkably close to the beer pitchers Kathie referred to). With that and those filters mentioned in this thread, I think I have a solution I can live with.

With thanks, the 'other' Joe]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143557#msg-143557 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:47:00 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143485/143556#msg-143556 mcdgi
But if not, I used to live there early 1980s, got my Kenyan pilot's license on the strength of my FAA cert, and used to fly with the now defunct Nakuru Aero Club. Flying over there back then was an extraordinary experience. In alot of ways, it was like flying here, take off when and where you want, no user fees, and generally the weather and scenery was spectacula. Upcountry destinations were journeys back in time and to another world.

The scenery and the upcountry experience is still the same, but, flying is very restricted today. The Aero Club of East Africa is a great source of information:

http://www.aeroclubea.com/

If you are not up to speed on what flying over there is like (or rather, what getting permission to go on a flight is like) I would definitely get in touch with them and get a primer on the subject.

The following is from one of the newsletters they sent me:

"Over the past three years, air operators and pilots at Wilson Airport have become used to the bureaucracy that is now associated with aviation in Kenya. Even little four-seater aircraft willingly 'taxi' to the Terminal for a "security check" by police. Pilots file a flight plan at a KCAA office, pay a Navigation Fee (even on VFR flights where they are "doing the navigating"!) to a different officer from the Kenya Revenue Authority, bring back the receipt to KCAA, and then give "Passenger Manifests" in quintuplicate to various seemingly interested parties, ranging from the Kenya Revenue Authority to the Kenya Airports Authority and from the Police to 'Security'. This process takes about 30 minutes to an hour, depending on the walking time involved from one's aircraft. It's a growth industry and many commercial operators now employ full-time staff to deal with this bureaucracy and to unburden pilots from this chore.

When pilots already thought it could not get much worse, a new "player" showed up at the scene. Recently, "Kenya Customs" officers have been harassing pilots for 'Manifest Forms', to the extent that overzealous uniformed officers forced pilots to 'shut down' their already started engines on the apron. The officers demanded "Passenger Manifests" and insisted on issuing a "Clearance Number" even on Domestic Flights, not only on "Departure, but also on "Arrival". To make matters worse, "Passenger Manifests" were demanded even if the aircraft carried no passengers."

As for the Nakuru aerodrome I used to fly out of, I heard this about it: "Nakuru Aero Club was closed in 1986 or so. The Army decided it was a "security risk". The building is still there, but it has been completed stripped and looted by the locals. So, only a shell remains. The Lanet airfield is still being used"]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143485/143556#msg-143556 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:09:29 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143555#msg-143555 ed dartford General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143555#msg-143555 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:27:11 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143532/143554#msg-143554 Jeff S
I'm not saying Global Warming is caused by man, here, don't get me wrong. But lead has been proven in the long run to be damaging to human health, so at some point we're all going to have face the facts and just get on with things.]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143532/143554#msg-143554 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:03:16 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143553#msg-143553 Kathie
Swipe one next time you're at your favourite beveraging establishment!]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143503/143553#msg-143553 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:49:47 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/143472/143552#msg-143552 8274xray Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/143472/143552#msg-143552 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:20:03 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/143238/143551#msg-143551 Adam
Adam]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/143238/143551#msg-143551 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:06:26 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/5/143538/143550#msg-143550 JimC the 65[sub]2[/sub]-415. From the outboard side of the fuel tanks inboard to the fuselage, the wings are identical both in physical size and shape.
JimC]]> Modifications http://forums.piperowner.org/read/5/143538/143550#msg-143550 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:03:34 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/35/141236/143549#msg-143549 JTaylor
I'm getting the vibe that no matter what I say, you'll sidestep my points.

When I [b]do[/b] engage the issues, I'm chastized for writing a lot, and my points are ignored.

And I [b]DID NOT SAY[/b] your sources are illegitimate or unauthorized. That [b]COMPLETELY MISSES MY POINT[/b]. Again, an example of my points being ignored or sidestepped.

If I posted my opinions here, loaded with left-wing propaganda catch-phrases and terms, you'd be [b]COMPLETELY CORRECT[/b] to question the foundation of information I'm working off of, and if it's accurate. That's what I'm doing with you- questioning the foundation of information you're drawing on. I don't think we can have a straight discussion because you seem to have bitten off and swallowed the right-wing narrative, complete with catchphrases and terminology. Your posts are rife with it.

I'm not going around and around with you anymore. I write stuff here, and it's not even read or understood.

I wrote too much again, didn't I?]]> Political & News Related Posts http://forums.piperowner.org/read/35/141236/143549#msg-143549 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:00:04 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143244/143548#msg-143548 JimC JimC]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/143244/143548#msg-143548 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:56:35 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/35/141236/143547#msg-143547 JTaylor
Goodbye, Piper Owner.]]> Political & News Related Posts http://forums.piperowner.org/read/35/141236/143547#msg-143547 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:42:26 -0600