http://forums.piperowner.org/index EN Tue, 13 May 2008 19:58:29 -0500 Tue, 13 May 2008 19:58:29 -0500 Piper Owner Society Forums Phorum 5.1.25 60 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100194/100197#msg-100197 cdubbs11 General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100194/100197#msg-100197 Tue, 13 May 2008 19:58:29 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100194/100196#msg-100196 boothkc
Good luck.]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100194/100196#msg-100196 Tue, 13 May 2008 19:32:49 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100195/100195#msg-100195 cdubbs11 Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100195/100195#msg-100195 Tue, 13 May 2008 18:43:42 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100194/100194#msg-100194 cdubbs11 General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100194/100194#msg-100194 Tue, 13 May 2008 18:43:05 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100193/100193#msg-100193 Transworld
for those having trouble getting there electric trim to work (most piper models) correctly here is the manuel to download this link will be active for a couple of days

I had to buy it so enjoy

http://www4.sendthisfile.com/d.jsp?t=xtwaKoi7zy0jWblF3MOwVrmV

Its a Pdf file

piper manuel 753-771

enjoy Ian]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100193/100193#msg-100193 Tue, 13 May 2008 17:41:32 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100180/100192#msg-100192 flyguydon General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100180/100192#msg-100192 Tue, 13 May 2008 17:27:59 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100184/100191#msg-100191 JasonT General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100184/100191#msg-100191 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:19:23 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100180/100190#msg-100190 JasonT General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100180/100190#msg-100190 Tue, 13 May 2008 16:17:45 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100180/100189#msg-100189 Rob General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100180/100189#msg-100189 Tue, 13 May 2008 15:34:15 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/23/100129/100188#msg-100188 Michael Cherokee Family http://forums.piperowner.org/read/23/100129/100188#msg-100188 Tue, 13 May 2008 14:34:47 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100180/100187#msg-100187 Rich W
Alice are you there?]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100180/100187#msg-100187 Tue, 13 May 2008 14:15:28 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100184/100186#msg-100186 ELP-Pate General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100184/100186#msg-100186 Tue, 13 May 2008 13:22:27 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100185/100185#msg-100185 davej401 Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100185/100185#msg-100185 Tue, 13 May 2008 12:42:39 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100184/100184#msg-100184 GM http://www.newpiper.com/company/Publications/SB%201161%20Rib%20Assy%20Insp-Mod.pdf

It's fairly new at a couple years and I just discovered it yesterday 1 year after my gear was off and rebuilt. Looks like a big job.

I know it's not an AD but as a "new customer" at this facility I was charged $300.00 for a doucment search for my 2007 Annual and this didn't come up.]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100184/100184#msg-100184 Tue, 13 May 2008 12:39:48 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/99912/100183#msg-100183 billat66y The Delphi forum address is http://forums.delphiforums.com/ then add /comancheflyer to the address. I should have previewed my previous message. For some reason it didn't add the "comancheflyer" portion.
Bill...]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/99912/100183#msg-100183 Tue, 13 May 2008 11:37:32 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/99912/100182#msg-100182 billat66y There are two; www.comancheflyer.com which is the website of the International Comanche Society, and http://forums.delphiforums.com/comancheflyer, which is a group on Delphi.
Lots of good information on both sites.
Bill...]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/99912/100182#msg-100182 Tue, 13 May 2008 11:29:50 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/3/100181/100181#msg-100181 megair For Sale / Wanted http://forums.piperowner.org/read/3/100181/100181#msg-100181 Tue, 13 May 2008 11:24:41 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100180/100180#msg-100180 Flyingdiver 35 This is for a 1962 Cherokee 160.

Thanks
Doug]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100180/100180#msg-100180 Tue, 13 May 2008 10:30:46 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100166/100179#msg-100179 Mark Ballentine Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100166/100179#msg-100179 Tue, 13 May 2008 08:48:36 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100141/100178#msg-100178 Dave Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100141/100178#msg-100178 Tue, 13 May 2008 08:30:17 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/23/100174/100177#msg-100177 JoeB
I don't think there was much variability through the year range you're talking about. The factory spec empty weight on the 6X is about 200 pounds heavier than the factory spec '80 Saratoga, but that's primarily because the standard equipment airplane in '80 was a freighter. Starting in '94 Piper included passenger seats, cabin interior, and a host of other options as standard. There wasn't a significant change in the underlying airframe (the aerodynamic cleanups in '94 were close to a wash weight-wise). It's all about the options which the first owner ordered: My '88 Saratoga came from the factory with the full executive package and is a bit heavier than a "standard" 6X. Standard empty weight on the 6X is 2,216 pounds.

Retractable gear is going to cost you another 175 pounds, at least in terms of standard weight. Planes in the field usually reflect that as it's pretty hard to compensate for those particular pounds. Watch out for air conditioners: they cost another 70 pounds and were optional across the fleet. You don't want to suffer that penalty if you don't need AC.

Regards,
Joe]]> Cherokee Family http://forums.piperowner.org/read/23/100174/100177#msg-100177 Tue, 13 May 2008 07:06:52 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/132/100176#msg-100176 r schreiber Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/132/100176#msg-100176 Tue, 13 May 2008 06:17:16 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/23/100025/100175#msg-100175 Jeff S Cherokee Family http://forums.piperowner.org/read/23/100025/100175#msg-100175 Tue, 13 May 2008 05:50:53 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/23/100174/100174#msg-100174 EC120
I'm looking at updating my 1980 Saratoga to a later model and was wanting to draw on the experience of the members which model and year does everyone think is the best equipped still with a useful load.

eg 6X or retractable 1999 - 2004 etc etc I want to stay with normally aspirated.

Thanks
Ron
Oz]]> Cherokee Family http://forums.piperowner.org/read/23/100174/100174#msg-100174 Tue, 13 May 2008 02:22:55 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/97893/100173#msg-100173 courtman
I think I solved the problem thanks to your help. You were right:

1) GNS in VLOC mode,
2) DAC in GPS mode,
3) Century in HDG mode

I flew 3 ILS approaches last weekend on long x-country flights with the AP on and guess what: perfect localizer intercept and I was riding down the glideslope with the AP keeping the needles centered.

I had had the AP in NAV mode which ended in the problem I had before. Mystery resolved.]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/97893/100173#msg-100173 Mon, 12 May 2008 23:59:04 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100141/100172#msg-100172 Freij Exhaust is on the right side - the deposits are on the left side.
I have an EGT, always leaning to a red marking.
To me the deposits looks like exhaust fumes.]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100141/100172#msg-100172 Mon, 12 May 2008 23:14:38 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/3/100171/100171#msg-100171 alex For Sale / Wanted http://forums.piperowner.org/read/3/100171/100171#msg-100171 Mon, 12 May 2008 22:47:56 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/99986/100170#msg-100170 Keith General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/99986/100170#msg-100170 Mon, 12 May 2008 22:41:37 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100038/100169#msg-100169 flyguydon
I am traveling this week, but can have the info to you Thursday evening.]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100038/100169#msg-100169 Mon, 12 May 2008 22:17:03 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100109/100168#msg-100168 flyingdiver35 Doug]]> General Discussion http://forums.piperowner.org/read/1/100109/100168#msg-100168 Mon, 12 May 2008 21:49:08 -0500