http://forums.piperowner.org/list/2 EN Sun, 11 May 2008 21:21:15 -0500 Sun, 11 May 2008 21:21:15 -0500 Avionics Phorum 5.1.25 60 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100106/100106#msg-100106 wlewis Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100106/100106#msg-100106 Sun, 11 May 2008 21:21:15 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100075/100105#msg-100105 gonz181 Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100075/100105#msg-100105 Sun, 11 May 2008 20:51:46 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100075/100104#msg-100104 Tooth32 randy]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100075/100104#msg-100104 Sun, 11 May 2008 20:45:32 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100095/100101#msg-100101 glenn j
Replacing the radio isn't a cure because it isn't the radio's fault. It is an antenna issue.]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100095/100101#msg-100101 Sun, 11 May 2008 20:19:39 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100095/100098#msg-100098 MikeGranby Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100095/100098#msg-100098 Sun, 11 May 2008 18:58:10 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99400/100097#msg-100097 wloving
I also have a few questions, if anyone can help...
- I understand it has GPSS or roll-steering included with it (a converter or something)
- My KI-256 Flight Command AI is integrated with my KAP-150 autopilot. I understand that it might be more involved and costly to install the EFD-1000 with this type of setup. I was planning to move the AI and HSI to the right side.
- It looks like you can buy it for $10k and I have heard estimates up to $5k to do the install.

Any information anyone has would be appreciated. I am planning to install this in my 94 Piper Saratoga.

Thanks.

Will Loving
N9202Q]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99400/100097#msg-100097 Sun, 11 May 2008 18:54:53 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100095/100095#msg-100095 Jim Wells
Has anyone else experienced this problem? If so, have you found a fix?]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100095/100095#msg-100095 Sun, 11 May 2008 17:42:41 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100075/100075#msg-100075 gonz181 Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100075/100075#msg-100075 Sun, 11 May 2008 11:22:51 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99972/100058#msg-100058 Dave Matlock Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99972/100058#msg-100058 Sun, 11 May 2008 01:27:25 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100038/100051#msg-100051 Jim G
I would love to know how to install this thing without a 337 so me and my A&P could get started on it this week... According to his avionics friend of his, a 337 must be done and could take a week or two of processing or somthing like that. I think the guy just wants us to use him for help so we by things from him. ( I will be using a KI-106 instead of a GI106, will this make a difference?)
If there is any way you can detail what i need to do for this install it would help me out SOO much.

Thanks,
Jim]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100038/100051#msg-100051 Sat, 10 May 2008 22:20:07 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100048/100048#msg-100048 Chris
When I look at the POH entries, the 430W is 1.5 lbs less than the 430. What did they take out that dropped the weight from 6.5 lbs down to 5 lbs? The antennas actually went up from .25 to .5, I assume because of the heavier coax. But 1.5 lbs seems like a lot to take out of the GPS when adding WAAS and terrain???]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100048/100048#msg-100048 Sat, 10 May 2008 20:47:48 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100038/100045#msg-100045 flyguydon
337s are not so bad... BUT- My Garmin 530 (along with a 106C, 340, 330...) was installed on a logbook entry and a W&B recalc.

If you want the reg I'd have to get it for you out of my logbook.]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100038/100045#msg-100045 Sat, 10 May 2008 20:30:47 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100038/100040#msg-100040 Gary
The STC has been accomplished with a model list, which I'm sure includes the Twin Commanche. A 337 is still required if you want to install it for IFR (not sure about a VFR installation). The FSDO will also approve your Flight Manual Supplement for the 430 which is specific to your airplane and equipment interfaced with the 430. Hope this helps.

Gary]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100038/100040#msg-100040 Sat, 10 May 2008 17:06:20 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100038/100038#msg-100038 Jim G

1964 Twin comanche

There is an STC for this GPS and model of aircraft correct?

If I have that STC and the installation manual is a 337 major alteration approval still needed?

Thanks,
Jim]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/100038/100038#msg-100038 Sat, 10 May 2008 11:36:57 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/77911/100015#msg-100015 Doug P Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/77911/100015#msg-100015 Fri, 09 May 2008 18:35:25 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/77911/100008#msg-100008 MikeGranby Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/77911/100008#msg-100008 Fri, 09 May 2008 14:45:29 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/77911/100007#msg-100007 Doug P Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/77911/100007#msg-100007 Fri, 09 May 2008 14:24:45 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/77911/100003#msg-100003 Dan Wilhite Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/77911/100003#msg-100003 Fri, 09 May 2008 13:31:25 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/89776/100000#msg-100000 Ron Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/89776/100000#msg-100000 Fri, 09 May 2008 12:45:55 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/89776/99999#msg-99999 Ron Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/89776/99999#msg-99999 Fri, 09 May 2008 12:44:10 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/81608/99985#msg-99985 Martin H
Why the hell do I think that? Two reasons:
1 - Chobham has owned Chelton from the beginning and is doing GREAT things in the world of Virtual Flying in the cockpit (not the actual term - but I've have a brain-fart at the moment). They have just come up with a phenomenal Auto Pilot for this also. My guess is that they will use the S-Tec distributors to sell their much improved Auto-pilot and MFD and PFDs as they go after Garmin and King.

2 - I am an Army Tanker by profession. Chobham is the company that makes the armor (or armour if you are a Brit) for the Abrahms and the Challenger. So, I have faith in the company.

Granted, time will tell - but so far, it seems like a good company who wants quality products.

Martin]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/81608/99985#msg-99985 Fri, 09 May 2008 09:54:37 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99972/99980#msg-99980 Frank Norwitch
Frank.]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99972/99980#msg-99980 Fri, 09 May 2008 07:22:05 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99972/99976#msg-99976 JoeB
Regards,
Joe]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99972/99976#msg-99976 Fri, 09 May 2008 06:52:07 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99972/99974#msg-99974 flyguydon Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99972/99974#msg-99974 Fri, 09 May 2008 06:34:16 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99972/99972#msg-99972 N718y
The pixels on the bottom of the gx55 screen are starting to fade/die. The bottom 1/8" of the screen is unredable, you can make out the icons on the bottom (msg, fpl, apr, ect). To get the most out of the sale i thought i might try to get it repaired or the screen replaced, is this possible? I know this unit has been discontinued for a pretty long time now. What are your guys thoughts??

Nate]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99972/99972#msg-99972 Fri, 09 May 2008 00:28:24 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/342/99967#msg-99967 Pierre Beaugh Thank You
Pierre]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/342/99967#msg-99967 Thu, 08 May 2008 20:00:23 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/81608/99933#msg-99933 shop5632
The problems began when Meggitt bought S-Tec. Meggitts aim was to acquire the vast amount of STC's that S-Tec had acquired, integrate it with it's high end line and port it to larger aircraft. This they did and support for small GA aircraft vanished as well as support for the local small avionic shop. The numbers did not wok out for most shops. A system at 20,000 marked up 5% is $1000 profit. If there was a problem that profit drop very quickly and labor costs go up as the work stops and re-scheduling has to be done. This was one of the reason we dropped then and so did many other shops.

During this period, when you called S-Tec, you could feel the tension from the folks you talked to. They were afraid of loosing their jobs. In fact after the dust settled everyone that was with the company in the old days had been replaced. Will Colbram make a difference....no!]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/81608/99933#msg-99933 Wed, 07 May 2008 22:27:03 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/81608/99932#msg-99932 a shop
The problems began when Meggitt bought S-Tec. Meggitts aim was to acquire the vast amount of STC's that S-Tec had acquired, integrate it with it's high end line and port it to larger aircraft. This they did and support for small GA aircraft vanished as well as support for the local small avionic shop. The numbers did not wok out for most shops. A system at 20,000 marked up 5% is $1000 profit. If there was a problem that profit drop very quickly and labor costs go up as the work stops and re-scheduling has to be done. This was one of the reason we dropped then and so did many other shops.

During this period, when you called S-Tec, you could feel the tension from the folks you talked to. They were afraid of loosing their jobs. In fact after the dust settled everyone that was with the company in the old days had been replaced. Will Colbram make a difference....no!

If you have a choice between S-Tec and Century, always go with Century. They are a better autopilot . Unfortunately you sometimes don't have a choice since Century do not have as many STC's for newer aircraft.]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/81608/99932#msg-99932 Wed, 07 May 2008 22:24:29 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99585/99925#msg-99925 Ron B. Ron]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/99585/99925#msg-99925 Wed, 07 May 2008 20:17:38 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/37473/99916#msg-99916 Tooth32
Dont know if this will work but this is the website for the download.[url=http://www.centuryflight.com/manuals/centIIB.pdf]Century IIB manual[/url]]]> Avionics http://forums.piperowner.org/read/2/37473/99916#msg-99916 Wed, 07 May 2008 17:02:04 -0500