http://forums.piperowner.org/list/4 EN Sun, 11 May 2008 10:55:00 -0500 Sun, 11 May 2008 10:55:00 -0500 Maintenance Phorum 5.1.25 60 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100067/100071#msg-100071 Bob Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100067/100071#msg-100071 Sun, 11 May 2008 10:55:00 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99531/100068#msg-100068 Moe Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99531/100068#msg-100068 Sun, 11 May 2008 08:36:50 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100067/100067#msg-100067 Rich
thanks much,]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/100067/100067#msg-100067 Sun, 11 May 2008 08:32:24 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/100060#msg-100060 flyguydon
On Cherokees, I have heard of folks adding the horns. It is easy and the horns are cheap.

BUT... if you put 4 folks in your Cherokee in August... it is easier to see a flicker of the light on rotation than explaining that the horn is nothing to worry about (to your passengers). :)]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/100060#msg-100060 Sun, 11 May 2008 06:31:01 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99971/100056#msg-100056 Dave Matlock Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99971/100056#msg-100056 Sun, 11 May 2008 00:32:08 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/100053#msg-100053 Dave Matlock Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/100053#msg-100053 Sat, 10 May 2008 22:25:57 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/96496/100042#msg-100042 JimC Try
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www.j3-cub.com]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/96496/100042#msg-100042 Sat, 10 May 2008 19:43:30 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/96496/100039#msg-100039 mark weitkamp
Thanks for any help.]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/96496/100039#msg-100039 Sat, 10 May 2008 11:53:17 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99137/100035#msg-100035 Fred Milton
Thanks for the tip. I'm getting some multi dual in his Geronimo this week. We also found two pretty good Apaches that we'll be looking at next week. I can highly recommend Glenn to anyone needing help with these planes.

Thanks again!]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99137/100035#msg-100035 Sat, 10 May 2008 09:51:04 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99954/100034#msg-100034 Dave Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99954/100034#msg-100034 Sat, 10 May 2008 09:26:30 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/95928/100029#msg-100029 Jeff S
I want to re-open this inquiry to provide latest details and see if there are any other thoughts. Having checked the L1 wiring connection, the circuit breaker, even tightening the wires at the junction box under the seat, I'm still having intermittent problems with the nav lights.

Intermittent is the key word. Of course, whenever my A/P looks at it, they're working. But often when I'm doing pre-flight the nav lights just won't come on. Interestingly, they always do seem to come on once everything is fired up and things seems to "warm up" a little bit.

I don't know if "warming up" has anything to do with this, but that's just my way of saying that after the plane has been operating for awhile they seem to work. And sometimes, they do work on pre-flight as well. Very vexing.

Could this be indicative of a switch going bad? Maybe some intermittent shorting or rubbing of wires inside the plane? Anybody else have ideas?

The plane is going in for annual on May 19th so we're definitely going to troubleshoot this some more, but if anyone can point me to likely causes that will be helpful. Thanks!

J]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/95928/100029#msg-100029 Sat, 10 May 2008 07:17:07 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99661/100027#msg-100027 datorres
Corrision is really a limited risk and is more a factor of long term lack of use. The greater risk over time is related to gaskets drying out and this can be evidenced by large leaks. I would personaly not worry too much about the twleve year limit if the engine is holding oil well, thereby indicating that there is no evidence of major leaks.]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99661/100027#msg-100027 Sat, 10 May 2008 00:29:25 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99779/100019#msg-100019 Jim Wells Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99779/100019#msg-100019 Fri, 09 May 2008 18:55:22 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/100018#msg-100018 flyguydon Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/100018#msg-100018 Fri, 09 May 2008 18:43:11 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/100017#msg-100017 flyguydon
Power off I can get a good break and bright stall indication. My Warrior did not really stall power on either unless you were heavy.]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/100017#msg-100017 Fri, 09 May 2008 18:41:46 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99954/100016#msg-100016 flyguydon Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99954/100016#msg-100016 Fri, 09 May 2008 18:37:55 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/100005#msg-100005 Howard Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/100005#msg-100005 Fri, 09 May 2008 14:16:58 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99997#msg-99997 MikeGranby Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99997#msg-99997 Fri, 09 May 2008 12:18:06 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99996#msg-99996 Howard
- Howard]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99996#msg-99996 Fri, 09 May 2008 12:07:10 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99994#msg-99994 Rick T.
Yeah, it is probably not the switch contacts. The switch body should be adjustable within the mount, not by bending the tab, but by sliding the assembly up and down.

You might consider moving the switch assembly slightly up, so that the tab will see more of the flow separation at stall. When the stall occurs the boundary layer flow reverses and pulls the tab up.]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99994#msg-99994 Fri, 09 May 2008 11:40:40 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99954/99993#msg-99993 SteveG
I meant CHT.

I've seen them in the Spruce catalog but 2 or 3 different sizes listed. Just thought I'd check here.]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99954/99993#msg-99993 Fri, 09 May 2008 11:37:21 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99991#msg-99991 MikeGranby Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99991#msg-99991 Fri, 09 May 2008 11:04:30 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99990#msg-99990 Howard Norber
Thanks
- Howard]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99990#msg-99990 Fri, 09 May 2008 10:40:12 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99989#msg-99989 Rick T.
Otherwise you are looking at several hundred dollars for a new switch.]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99989#msg-99989 Fri, 09 May 2008 10:24:39 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99987#msg-99987 Tom Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99987#msg-99987 Fri, 09 May 2008 10:06:10 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99984#msg-99984 Howard
It seems to me that the metal tab may be bent at an angle where it just isn't 'catching' during pwr-on stalls- and so I wonder whether I should be looking at having an AI bend the tab to be sure the angle is w/in specs - or whether the tab needs to be replaced?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks.]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99984/99984#msg-99984 Fri, 09 May 2008 09:48:51 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99971/99981#msg-99981 JimC Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99971/99981#msg-99981 Fri, 09 May 2008 07:46:36 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99954/99975#msg-99975 flyguydon
EGTs get drilled into the exhaust just under the outlet and are held there by a special (hose) clamp and a little gasket.]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99954/99975#msg-99975 Fri, 09 May 2008 06:39:10 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99971/99973#msg-99973 Dave Matlock Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99971/99973#msg-99973 Fri, 09 May 2008 04:56:56 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99971/99971#msg-99971 Av8rdanPim
Trouble is, it can be fine for a flight of two, and then just flags at the worst time. It is an S-Tec TBI connected to an S-Tec 50 a/p, and the other day while under the hood and with the a/p engaged, the damn thing flagged and made the a/p lurch hard left while climbing. No big, I disengaged, unflagged the TBI and flew on to a decent VOR/DME approach.

Anyone have a trick for fixing this fuse holder, or are new ones the solution? A old timer at the airport said just stick a small wad of foil in there and it will tighten things up.

Any thoughts...just click my username at left to email me.]]> Maintenance http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/99971/99971#msg-99971 Thu, 08 May 2008 23:38:49 -0500