http://forums.piperowner.org/list/7 EN Thu, 08 May 2008 12:16:20 -0500 Thu, 08 May 2008 12:16:20 -0500 Training Phorum 5.1.25 60 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/21339/99953#msg-99953 Barbera Does anyone know of an excellent IFR instructor in the Montreal area and would also appreciate if anyone could refer me to purchase a block of hours on a private twin.
THanks]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/21339/99953#msg-99953 Thu, 08 May 2008 12:16:20 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/97570/99859#msg-99859 turbokurt
Sac, Did you do that when you were at Bishop??]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/97570/99859#msg-99859 Tue, 06 May 2008 18:44:55 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/21464/99593#msg-99593 alex Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/21464/99593#msg-99593 Thu, 01 May 2008 15:48:24 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/92160/99518#msg-99518 Don
My last real IFR trip was to Flagstaff with a missed ILS to minimums in the snow and it was a bit scary, but I pulled it off - after a diversion for lunch to let things improve slightly. That trip has me looking at auto-pilot options for my old Six.]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/92160/99518#msg-99518 Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:49:37 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/92160/99194#msg-99194 Jeff casse
Being a doctor and with a busy schedule it was important I complete the course in 10 days, and on the 10th day I was on my checkride and passed on first attempt. I felt completely prepared and comfortable. Some of the days were long but I actually enjoyed every minute. Flying all 40 of the required hours without the use of a simulator made me even more confident as AFIT said it would.

I learned more in those 10 days than I have learned in the past several' years. [b]All due to my instructor a true professional with real world experience, which I learned, makes all the difference.[/b]
Thumbs up to AFIT for a job well done.

All the best to you and if you speak with AFIT, tell them Jeff Casse says hello.

"Safe Flying"

Jeff]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/92160/99194#msg-99194 Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:57:12 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/62738/99060#msg-99060 George Kramer Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/62738/99060#msg-99060 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:06:13 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/69757/99052#msg-99052 Erik Thunberg
Thanks!]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/69757/99052#msg-99052 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:12:27 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/62738/99050#msg-99050 Todd Treadway
Thanks]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/62738/99050#msg-99050 Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:56:53 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/64177/98903#msg-98903 TomR -------------------------------------------------------
> Hi Phil,
>
> I bought a Piper Cherokee 140 a year ago and got
> my license within 60 days because I didn't have
> any scheduling issues. I also flew 220 hours
> within the first 12 months of ownership at a total
> cost of about $65 per hour including purchasing
> charts, head sets, rent on hangar, insurance, gas,
> oil and this years annual for next year. I also
> allowed my 24 year old son and girlfriend to train
> for their private pilots license.
>
> The Cherokee is great, carries 630lbs of pax with
> full fuel, flies about 133mph max 75% cruise on
> 8.4 gallons per hour, climbes to about 13,000 feet
> and is all around joy to fly. Simple to maintain.
>
>
> I am currently finishing up my Instrument training
> in same and hope to soon purchase that Comanche
> 250 like what you are thinking about. If my trips
> were of 200 miles or less it really wouldn't be
> reasonable to buy a faster plane but my trips are
> 1000 miles each way so going from 9 hours to 6
> hours is nice. As for training it would be a
> little silly to spend 14 gallons per hour training
> in a Comanche when you can fly something less.
>
> If you train in and pass your ticket in a
> Commanche you will not be checked out in a
> Cherokee or Cessna 172, so when you wish to rent a
> plane you will not be able to.
>
> Other options from buying a plane are:
>
> Join a flying club; Buy into a partnership of 5 or
> less people in a training type plane 172 or 140.
> Then when you have a few hundred hours buy a
> performance plane.
>
> Planes have been going up in value the last decade
> but with all the flood of baby boomers loosing
> their medicals, I beleive there will be a flood of
> desperately priced planes for sale in the 40-60
> year old performance category. I am already
> seeing many 60's model $37k-45k 250 Comanches.
>
> Good luck



Tony-

Was that a typo regarding payload? My 140 has a total payload of 813lb. Subtracting 300lb for full fuel only leaves a bit over 500lb for pax and luggage.

Also, price depression of older aircraft might also be due to the fact that the instrumentation is now really old, and the cost/availability of parts and labor to keep them flying and upgrading the avionics is starting to look like a bad investment (as if it was ever a good one.)]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/64177/98903#msg-98903 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:00:50 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/64177/98716#msg-98716 cris Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/64177/98716#msg-98716 Tue, 15 Apr 2008 12:11:38 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/98355/98560#msg-98560 James

FAA-H-8083-3A Airplane Flying Handbook

“There are many different types of clearing procedures.
Most are centered around the use of clearing turns. The
essential idea of the clearing turn is to be certain that
the next maneuver is not going to proceed into another
airplane’s flightpath. Some pilot training programs
have hard and fast rules, such as requiring two 90°
turns in opposite directions before executing any
training maneuver. Other types of clearing procedures
may be developed by individual flight instructors.
Whatever the preferred method, the flight instructor
should teach the beginning student an effective clearing
procedure and insist on its use. The student pilot
should execute the appropriate clearing procedure
before all turns and before executing any training
maneuver. Proper clearing procedures, combined
with proper visual scanning techniques, are the most
effective strategy for collision avoidance.”]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/98355/98560#msg-98560 Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:22:25 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/94942/98525#msg-98525 John K It's good that you are considering to work on your IFR training right away. Although the recomendations about waiting and getting some x-country time is good advice too.
My thought takes me back to when I got my PPL. [b]IT[/b] was the goal.
Didn't really have any plans beyound that.
So 15 years later, I purchased my Cherokee 140, and am loving getting back to flying!!

So keep that IFR training close in mind so when you build some time in your Warrior you are getting some good ground (air) work!

John]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/94942/98525#msg-98525 Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:08:08 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/69757/98374#msg-98374 Thomas
Email me at columbia_66@yahoo.com if you want a copy. I'll be happy to send it out.

Regards,

Tom]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/69757/98374#msg-98374 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:50:12 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/94963/98364#msg-98364 robdog
A technique i used during my IFR training was microsoft flight simulator 2004, the old cheap one, with the Yoke stick.

I used it mainly for holding pattern practice. There is a top down map that marks where you have been, so you can see how clean the "race track" of your flight path looks like.

At that time, i was pretty proficient at almost any holding pattern. Using the marker trails in MSFlight Sim, i challenged myself by making various flower designs over a VOR and over intersections.

MS Flight Sim is also good at practicing IFR Partial panel, as you can disable certain instruments. During the middle of my checkride, i was put on partial panel, and finished the rest of the test partial panel. We all forgot since i was flying so well.

I have even heard of some people who get blistering drunk, then fly approaches and patterns in the flight sim! I guess its to simulate disorientation! hahah.

I setup the weather in the flight sim to be the worst possible. That forced me to constantly apply minor corrections to maintain my heading and altitude. After a few hours of flying like this, and you stop thinking about what you should be doing, and just do it. Like riding a bike, like breathing.. its automatic.

Congrats on your IFR ticket!
my instructor told me, "Now that you have it, dont think you are Super Man! Practice, practice, practice.."

--rob


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[url=http://zulu247.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=5]my Pilot Pictures and Adventures[/url]]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/94963/98364#msg-98364 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 11:16:54 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/98355/98355#msg-98355 Scott
What are the proper techniques for clearing turns on the private pilot check ride and which maneuvers must they be performed prior to?

Is there any official text describing such?

Thanks in advance.

Scott]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/98355/98355#msg-98355 Tue, 08 Apr 2008 07:16:41 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/69757/98283#msg-98283 caryr Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/69757/98283#msg-98283 Sun, 06 Apr 2008 21:36:24 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/41241/98142#msg-98142 pat colligan Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/41241/98142#msg-98142 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:48:52 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/69757/98120#msg-98120 Andy Weir Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/69757/98120#msg-98120 Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:38:28 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/92160/97949#msg-97949 HTaylor Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/92160/97949#msg-97949 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 13:30:02 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/97570/97892#msg-97892 Sac Arrow Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/97570/97892#msg-97892 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 15:29:35 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/97570/97884#msg-97884 alex Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/97570/97884#msg-97884 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:30:39 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/97570/97637#msg-97637 Frank Norwitch
Frank.]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/97570/97637#msg-97637 Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:35:00 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/97570/97570#msg-97570 GJL
WHAT A RUSH.

The warrior really jumps off the ground and climbs without my instructor in the right seat. It messed up my timing in the pattern ;-) I was damn near at TPA by the time I got to the end of the runway.]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/97570/97570#msg-97570 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:51:30 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/92160/97545#msg-97545 jamsk
The hard part is keeping up with regular practice!

Highly recommend GATTS.]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/92160/97545#msg-97545 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:22:51 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/92160/97183#msg-97183 Jeff L
I have recently decided to put together my own program for IFR training. Just did 7 hours under the hood to Tucson from L.A. and then back. Then shot the ILS into Oxnard at the end of the trip. Wow... I was whipped but I really wanted to see how the system worked in a cross country setting. Over the last year I have upgraded my plane to MY level of IFR acceptability. STEC 30 autopilot with altitude hold coupled to a 430W with GPSS steering. 396 with XM weather etc.... Plane is in annual right now but at the end of April I have 1 day on 1 day off for 2 weeks of instrument training and then hopefully I will be ready. I have 12 hour right now.]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/92160/97183#msg-97183 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 23:56:36 -0500 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/94942/96663#msg-96663 GJL
I think I'll stick with the Warrior. No sense in doing something I don't know.

Took the FAA test this afternoon and passed with an 85%. THRILLED about that.

Next stop, Solo - population 1 ;-)]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/94942/96663#msg-96663 Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:35:39 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/94963/96531#msg-96531 Jeff S
I recently went out for my first bit of dedicated IMC training as a solo pilot, i.e. IMC with only little ol' me on board. I hadn't been in IMC for several months and that first climb into the ceiling was a real eye opener. I was amazed at how quickly I lost control by not steadfastly keeping an eye on all the gauges. You don't realize how much your subconscious relies on outside visual stimulus until it goes away.]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/94963/96531#msg-96531 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:05:11 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/94942/96530#msg-96530 Jeff S
I found myself longing for those special moments when my CFII would let me actually look at the ground!

As to ownership, I would just make sure you know what your mission is. There's no real reason to move up to complex right away unless your mission or business needs require more speed. Everything about a complex plane will cost more: purchase price, insurance, maintenance, etc. I'm still happy as a clam tooling around in my Warrior, but my flying is all personal so I've decided to resist the move to an Arrow or Mooney for now.

Good luck!]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/94942/96530#msg-96530 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 18:59:21 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/95840/96492#msg-96492 Jess Haggerty
Jess]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/95840/96492#msg-96492 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 07:14:29 -0600 http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/95840/96423#msg-96423 MikeGranby > commercial: 15% decrease
> AGI & IGI: 4% decrease
> CFI: 11 % increase
> CFII: 11 % decrease

I wonder if after the Instrument it isn't just a combination of hours, claims experience and noise that's making the difference.]]> Training http://forums.piperowner.org/read/7/95840/96423#msg-96423 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 04:18:47 -0600